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Title: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 07, 2018, 06:09:13 pm
I thought the rules on players using alts were quite clear but I see on world 14 that they are not anymore. Some players use or have used alts to boost their main account. Some have been reported with strong proof and are still there. To make it worse (or better) they are ruining a server that might have been the first interesting euro server since world 3, IF we even consider world 3 an interesting server. Worlds 4/6/8/10/12 were NOT interesting, not a single little microscopic bit.

Now I'm fine with rules changing but if some players can use alts I would like to know what is required to do the same. Is there a minimum amount of denari one must spend each day on each alt? I'm fine with that change but the problem is it's not that easy to compete with players who use several accounts to boost their main one and who crush all enemy navy castles with a warship castle that should not exist... We spend funds on castles and get them wiped out by a guy who is allowed to use alts while we're not (unless I'm mistaken). So we need to have our own alts to compete, right?

To summarise, I would like to know what the new rules are and then I'll create my own alts, fund them massively and finally catch up with enemies who are still there instead of having been banned.
Thanks in advance for any data that can be provided on the new alts rules to enable players to compete if they want to. I also suggest the game rules and Aschendal Archives be updated so that all players are aware of the new rules.

Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 888 on December 07, 2018, 06:14:07 pm
not the point of this post but every server looks interesting on day 14

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I also don't think alts are much of a problem, they will fix themselves once people stop: 1) accepting players with alts into their alliances, 2) joining alliances where they know there are players with alts. This will happen once there are more teams that don't satisfy those criteria.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Adiera on December 09, 2018, 08:19:41 pm
There are no new rules, alts are not allowed. Please do give us a bit of time to investigate reports when you enter them. Thanks!
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 19, 2018, 08:49:00 pm
Sorry for the sarcasm but we showed SOLID proof and I still see incomings from people who cheat(ed) and should have been banned a month ago. #someonewhoshouldnotevenexisthasjustcrushedacastleIspent30kfundson The "bit of time" lasts an eternity. I frankly doubt anything is being done at this time. When you replied here and I sent my LAST report on this subject I still thought something was going to be done. Some folks cheat and don't damage a server, some folks cheat and destroy servers. Guess which ones get banned? The ones I reported are f**king up world 14. Now I'm done trying to help.

I don't mind getting my stuff crushed since I'm the most resilient player on this game BY FAR (and modestest, of course). But I hate seeing players who spend money to build castles get it all wasted because a guy is allowed to cheat on an (maybe?) unlimited scale. It's not just money that's wasted, it's castles, growth, and maybe in the end a continent (or several). I'm not sure how many players already quit because of these guys but I know there are quite a few.

I was hoping to make world 14 the first interesting euro server ever and to go on coaching dozens of players. I coached ten/twenty/fifty times more folks than anyone else on this game but I think I'll just cruise and kill enemies. I made many servers interesting or at least kept them alive a minimum (worlds 1/3/5/6/7/10/12/14) but I think I'll just cruise and kill enemies. After world 14 I'll go back to playing Civilization or DOOM or Heroes of Might and Magic and quit MMO games for real. I'll create a dozen alts and get banned for fun. Maybe it's arrogance speaking but you'll feel the difference after world 14 ;)

Hugs to cheaters, alts using morons, 888, OldShang and his bunch, lame leaders, and the few French players who are trying to kill this game (I know sexual frustration sucks...).
To developpers, a solution that might make the game get more players: ban everyone! Get ONLY new blood playing this game.
To players, I'm not interested in ANY d*mb f**king reply to this post. Only developpers and a few exceptions (Gorilla and JKnight) seem to be interested in making this game a success. Feel free to reply but anything you write will be considered stupid BS as far as I'm concerned and either ignored or replied to with insults.
Peace out.
Troll.

Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 19, 2018, 08:54:00 pm
NOTE. On world 6 I coached RSR players... BSR was not coaching a damn thing. Just writing this so a few morons who might want to reply to my earlier post get an idea of how far I can go (and it happened on other servers).
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 888 on December 19, 2018, 09:44:11 pm
have the cheaters crushed any landlocked castles?
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 19, 2018, 10:01:18 pm
888, you are a player. I am not interested in whatever you have to write. Just ignore my posts, forget I even exist.

Fun, all players I reported weeks ago are in the same alliance now. I love a good coincidence. LOL!!!

Fun, alts incomings just on the evening I come back on the forum...maybe they didn't like my comments. LOL!!!

https://gyazo.com/5cf2dd06943729c66fdb36540b2ce582
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 888 on December 19, 2018, 10:06:10 pm
doesn't look like the cheaters are the reason that 30k denari castles are getting crushed, at least the impact is pretty small
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 19, 2018, 10:09:02 pm
A maths guy should stick to maths. You are REALLY not good at sophistry. You don't understand much of the game mechanics either. And if you are trying to troll, you are not good at it either.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 888 on December 20, 2018, 12:13:19 am
just putting my input out there for the devs to see, if you don't want others' input you don't have to reply to my questions, and that's fine, but then why not just put out a ticket?
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 20, 2018, 12:26:23 am
Anyone who quit on all tough servers and only played easy ones, like you, has no solid input to give, NONE WHATSOEVER. It's mostly clownish input that doesn't consider small players/new players/noob players/players who are not on a lot, or small alliances... It's NOTHING, empty teenager sophistry.
Quit trying to troll on the game forum. It is not constructive and you are sounding ludicrous.
Tickets have become useless on important stuff and the forum is spammed by clowns like you. Now please go spam another post with your BS. Take all your friends along.
And to conclude, I have been wondering if you were not one of those people who wanted to damage the game real bad. I have nothing to say to those people, just ***.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 888 on December 20, 2018, 12:28:41 am
don't care whether you think my input is solid or not, if you want to talk details you could have said that in an earlier post
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Empreror on December 20, 2018, 02:09:17 am
And to conclude, I have been wondering if you were not one of those people who wanted to damage the game real bad. I have nothing to say to those people, just ***.

TrollGralson, did you read what you wrote here?  You are one of those people trying to hurt the game real bad.  The road to hell is paved with good intentions. You might think you are making the game better, but you are not helping.  Helping requires different tactics to achieve the changes you are seeking.  Yes, ticketing is frustrating as all hell, it takes time and careful proving for the Devs to see 100% the same way you do, before they ban a very active player. 
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 20, 2018, 11:38:17 am
Go fuck yourselves, guys. You are just useless slime.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Empreror on December 20, 2018, 11:53:18 am
I’m glad to see your attitude is improving.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 20, 2018, 12:43:14 pm
Why are you still alive? Can't you fucking die already? I have no attitude problems little fag bitch. Sometimes it's just best to cut the communication and getting banned will make it everlasting. Little pieces of shit like you who comment everything but are never constructive will just be something I'll forget.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Empreror on December 20, 2018, 12:48:33 pm
Never Constuctive?  I don’t hear anyone complaining about any exploits, do you?  I found quite a few and reported them all before they ruined servers and they weren’t little exploits either.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 20, 2018, 12:55:36 pm
blah blah blah, fucking die, fuckface!
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: _JL3_ on December 20, 2018, 01:01:12 pm
Troll your on the whine a bit early aren't you??
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: TrollGralson on December 20, 2018, 01:04:47 pm
I see all the rodents are joining. I don't whine, I never do, because I don't give a damn about a game. It's just time to kick the fucking anthill.
I wish you a slow and painful death.

@forum moderation, do I need to go on insulting the trash of this game to be banned from this forum?
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: _JL3_ on December 20, 2018, 01:07:24 pm
You Should put on your high vis vest while your doing it 😀😀 All you do is whine on the wine.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 5o5 on December 20, 2018, 01:58:25 pm
Sorry, I speak little English, he may be deformed. Exactly, in the face of this problem of language, personally I am not too evolution and history of the main players, but be careful not to put gangrene in your past arguments. I think a lot of new players do not understand everything, or partially understand because they do not have all the versions of the various past worries, and by force, they stop the game.
You, the developers of this beautiful game at the base, pay attention and be very responsive if it turns out that there will be suspicions of multi-accounts out of respect to the many players who pay (or not elsewhere) and play honestly. I imagine that you have many calculation tables, and depending on the evolution of the players, you can see if there is a problem or not.
To date, it's the management part of the game that makes me a little hold on it, but the desire to make a hard-reset grows when I read the forums and, it is out of the question to do the puppet as on the w10 (which was a disaster because at the end of 15j, we knew the denouement -> strongly a rule which limits the alliances to 20-30 players) or the 2nd alliance of the waiter over finished with fifteen active players, j ' imagine that the 3rd should be little better.
In summary, I am enormously pessimistic about the loyalty of new players while keeping a maximum of old.

cordially

Bonjour,

Désolé, je parle peu l'Anglais, il peut-être déformé. Justement, face à ce soucis de langage, personnellement je suis pas trop l'évolution et l'historique des joueurs principaux, faites néanmoins attention à ne pas mettre la gangrène par vos disputes passées. Je pense que beaucoup de nouveaux joueurs ne comprennent pas tout, ou comprennent partiellement car ils ont pas toutes les versions des divers soucis passés, et à force, ils arrêtent le jeu .
Vous, les développeurs de ce jeu magnifique à la base, faites attention et soyez très réactif si il s'avère qu'il y ai ne serai-ce des soupçons de multi-comptes par respect aux nombreux joueurs qui payent (ou pas d'ailleurs) et jouent honnêtement . J'imagine que vous avez de nombreuses tables de calcul, et en fonction de l'évolution des joueurs, vous pouvez vous apercevoir si il y a un problème ou pas.
A ce jour, c'est la partie gestion du jeu qui me fait un peu tenir dessus, mais l'envie de faire un hard-reset grandit quand je lis les forums et, il est hors de question de faire le pantin comme sur le w10 (qui a été une catastrophe car au bout de 15j, on connaissait le dénouement --> vivement une règle qui limite les alliances à 20-30 joueurs)  ou la 2eme alliance du serveur à finie à une quinzaines de joueurs actifs, j'imagine que la 3eme devait être guère mieux.
En résumé, je suis énormément pessimiste sur la fidélisation de nouveaux joueurs tout en gardant un maximum d'ancien.

Cordialement
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 888 on December 20, 2018, 03:48:52 pm
I don't think there is a way to track multiple accounts just by the growth of the players. As for the activity problem, there are plenty of players who prefer to play the earlier game for various reasons; I don't think that it is unusual that a team starts with 150 players and ends with 15 after 6-7 months.

Je ne pense pas qu'il y a une fonction qui trouve les multi-joueurs. Par le problème de l'activité, je n'ai pas surpris que une équipe de 150 joueurs diminue et devient une équipe de 15 joueurs après 6 mois, parce que il existe assez de joueurs qui préfère le jeu des premiers mois.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: 5o5 on December 20, 2018, 05:14:48 pm
If what you say is true 888 in your 2 answers, then the game is dead, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Adiera on December 20, 2018, 05:43:46 pm
Hey guys! I feel like I need to make an apology here for recent delays in taking care of non emergency issues that are being reported by ticket. The past 2 months I have had to undergo a course of chemo and I've been feeling pretty ragged. The last infusion was a week ago. There is a better explanation found in this thread here https://www.crownofthegods.com/cotgforum/index.php/topic,1426.msg16349.html#msg16349

I am slowly starting to recover and so we can start to get things back on track now. We do absolutely have ways to track people who are playing more than one account, we use more than just growth and IP overlaps, and all reports are investigated very thoroughly before we take the action of fully and permanently banning our players. 
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Byzantine on December 21, 2018, 06:41:46 am
Adi hope you're well, i hardly doubt tickets are more important than health....players here get to enjoy a game thanks to you & others - it might not be perfect yet. and on the cheating/alt side i remember for the whole time i played LOU alts were just part of standard startup for alot of players so while it's good to keep nagging you guys about improvements and stuff at the end of the day you're doing great. so just wanted to say thank you and take care of yourself
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Warsaints on July 04, 2019, 03:59:10 pm
Ooh, was this topic made in my honor? I'm pretty sure I was the one who 7pt Trollgralson on w14 with WS
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: slik on July 28, 2019, 01:29:46 pm
poor Troll was banned 
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Trog on September 04, 2019, 04:14:32 pm
Hey guys! I feel like I need to make an apology here for recent delays in taking care of non emergency issues that are being reported by ticket. The past 2 months I have had to undergo a course of chemo and I've been feeling pretty ragged. The last infusion was a week ago. There is a better explanation found in this thread here https://www.crownofthegods.com/cotgforum/index.php/topic,1426.msg16349.html#msg16349

I am slowly starting to recover and so we can start to get things back on track now. We do absolutely have ways to track people who are playing more than one account, we use more than just growth and IP overlaps, and all reports are investigated very thoroughly before we take the action of fully and permanently banning our players.

I know this is was posted a long time ago, but I've just read it.
My father went through the same thing. I hope things are good with you and everything is clear now. Fingers crossed for a full recovery.
All my best wishes.

Trog
Title: Re: Alts
Post by: Adiera on September 04, 2019, 07:26:11 pm
Hi Trog, thank you! I am doing much better now, though my physical strength is still returning only very slowly.  The autoimmune disorder is in full remission at this time :)